Nachi Gordon sits down with Ben Brafman, one of the most well known criminal defense attorneys in the country and a proud frum Jew. Ben opens up about sitting with clients at the worst moments of their lives, why he says he's "not the morality police," the Otisville visiting day he can never forget, and the hardest conversation of his career, with Super Bowl champion Plaxico Burress.

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Timestamps:

0:00 Intro: "I'm Not the Morality Police"

3:29 Ben Brafman on Talking Clients Out of Suicide and an Affinity Fraud in Shul

6:25 No Mussar and No Shortcuts: The Hard Work Behind the Job

8:31 His Father, Kristallnacht, and the Torah Saved From a Burning Shul

9:39 Law School, Stand-Up Comedy, and Humor in the Courtroom

11:46 What Gets Frum Business People in Trouble

13:26 Otisville Visiting Day: "Tatti, Kum Aheim"

16:28 COVID Loans, False Applications, and Federal Sentencing

20:34 Mesira, Cooperating With the Government, and Pardons for Sale

24:34 The Chesed of the Jewish Community and Hospital Shabbos Rooms

28:26 Lashon Hara: "Be Like Ben"

31:26 Yiddishkeit vs. Career: Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur, and a "Heart Surgery"

35:30 Making a Name: In the Zone and No Summers Off

37:58 The Hardest Conversation: Plaxico Burress

41:40 How Do You Defend Someone You Think Belongs in Jail?

43:26 Smicha Is Not a PhD: Kollel, Financial Pressure, and the Cheder in Ramat Eshkol

48:42 The Art of Cross-Examination and the Evidence You Can't Cross-Examine

54:22 No Shortcuts to Success, and Lawyers Burned by AI

56:03 Not Picking Up on Shabbos for Sean Combs

1:01:18 The Mafia Cops Case That Should Be a Movie

1:05:36 Best and Worst Advice, and Learning Daf Yomi

1:09:26 Ben and His Brother, Rabbi Aron Brafman

1:15:50 Sullivan & Cromwell and Frum Lawyers in Big Law

1:18:08 Closing and Meaningful Minute Plus